From the pastor…
I have surprising and disappointing news for our Messiah community. Our Children’s Minister Michelle Miefert has resigned effective October 1, 2016. Though she has only been with us one year, she has already impacted our life together. Her task was to bring our preschool ministry and children’s ministry together,. She started us on that road. Preschool families have shown up in greater number to Messiah Night, Children’s Sunday, Breakfast with the Bunny and just yesterday at our Rally Day Picnic. We have more students from Messiah and more members on staff and as volunteers in our preschool. Michelle came to us when our preschool was healthy and the changes she has made in just one year leave it even healthier. Less changes had begun with our children’s ministry, but we were starting to see a new direction that welcomed families and encouraged their efforts to raise their children in faith. Everyone who encountered Michelle this year has been drawn in by her positive nature, smile, concern and love of children and families. She will be missed. Continue reading Children’s Minister Michelle Miefert is leaving us.
School begins for our children next week! Can you believe that? Where has this summer gone? Sign number 7461 that I am becoming an old man is that time seems to fly by (sign number 7460 is the hair I have to keep plucking from my ears, why does hair grow where I don’t need it and not…). In May, I was dreaming about a peaceful summer. I even suspended some meetings for June and July to help slow it down further. And yet, I have felt three steps behind since Memorial Day. Continue reading From the pastor…
Unfortunately, our worship attendance at Messiah has historically declined in the summertime, anywhere from 15 to 20%. This is not a unique problem for churches. Many combine or eliminate worship services because the trend in their congregations is even greater. It can cause a problem with the finances of a congregation, since it is the offering given in worship that provides the bulk of the funds that keep the ministries going. Continue reading Summer Worship and Ministry
From the pastor…
I had a good run this morning, but I still felt anxious and uneasy afterward. I had listened for my entire Monday morning run to the CBS show Face the Nation, podcast version. Now, I have a lot going on this week, so there could be multiple reasons why this run did not relax me, as most do. Still, I think I was put on edge by hearing interviewed all but two of the seven candidates running for president.
This presidential campaign season I am starting to wonder if I have let my interest get out of kilter. I am filling time in the car or on runs with endless pundits talking about this election, rather than listening to music or great storytelling shows like This American Life or Snap Judgment. My interest is not a civic virtue. I am not trying to decide on who to vote for in our own Ohio primary in March. I am transfixed at the spectacle of our brawling candidates. Like a traffic accident, I can’t seem to take my eyes off of it, hourly, daily, weekly.
I think it is hurting my spirit. There is wholeness in having balance in life. There is goodness in trying to see the world through eyes of faith, not Democratic or Republican eyes. I have enough information to be a good citizen of my country and cast my ballot. I need to move on now and fill my time better. Our lives can get distorted so easily by interests and passions that move us away from God rather than closer. This intense passion feels as though it might be distorting me.
How is your spirit doing? I hope you are filling this Lenten season with rituals, habits and interests that bring you closer to God’s hope for you, rather than further away. I hope the risen Christ is giving you eyes of faith to see the world. Pay attention this Lent to how you are feeling. Maybe, you need what I need, not to ignore the world, but to not the let world dominate our priorities or concerns. Peace, Pastor Karl
2015 has been an exciting year for Messiah.
We have welcomed great new staff people. A call committee worked diligently to find a new associate pastor. Messiah has benefitted from their hard work. I have been amazed at how well Pastor Liz has fit into our congregation and added to our life together already. Messiah has added a new full time Children’s Minister position to build more bridges between our Preschool and the church. Michelle Meifert has joined our staff and her hard work and great ideas have made the transition smoother than I would have imagined. I am excited for the possibilities in 2016 that come from these new opportunities. We added a quarter time position to our staff, Jim Diehm, to assist Pastor Liz with Confirmation and Teen ministry. Jim has been a key volunteer leader in this ministry for years, so it is no surprise he is already invaluable since he has shouldered even more responsibility. Continue reading From the pastor…
- Opening Prayer
- Scripture Review
- How or why is the context of the scripture and whether you hold context as important or not, the central part of the discussion?
- Did you hear anything in our discussion of scripture that surprised you, you hadn’t heard before or that resonated differently with you this time?
- A textbook definition of sin is the word used to described the distance between us and God. Sinfulness are those actions or thoughts that separate or keep us from God.
- If homosexuality is sinful, how does it keep us distant from God?
- Does it matter if we understand why something is sinful?
- Brief, uninformed cultural history, taken unashamedly from Wikipedia Gay History entry
- There are a few instances of unique pre modern, non western cultures that had different sexuality norms. Most of these involved men taking both male and female lovers. There were a small number of societies where transgender men or women lived publicly without rebuke. In some, they were thought to have unique spiritual powers. Indian and Chinese literature contained not just homoerotic poetry but stories, too. There are many examples of temple cults that involved male prostitutes.
- Roman and Greek male to male sexual activity was almost common among the upper class, but limited to pederasty or unique situations like soldiers serving away from home. Nearly all Roman emperors were recorded to have participated in pederasty. Men who took a female role in sex were disparaged in European and Middle Eastern societies in the Persian, Greek, Roman eras. Same gender female sex is rarely mentioned.
- The Middle Ages in Europe saw harsh laws against homosexuality including and often calls for death or mutilation of genitals. Homosexuality was one of the focuses of the inquisition. In the sixteenth century most European nations made male on male sex punishable by death.
- 19th century western thought held that homosexuality was a sign of cultural degeneracy. Activists used it’s existence to push for social change, cf. prohibition, housing, wages.
- In late 18th and early 20th century, the word homosexuality began to be used to describe a lifestyle not just an act. Large cities in Europe and America had a thriving and not wholly secret gay subculture. Berlin had openly gay bars and transgender cabarets. Hitler saw this as a sign of degeneracy, and imprisoned 50,000 homosexuals and executing countless.
- In early America, sodomy laws that applied to heterosexuals and homosexuals held harsh punishments from death to flogging and imprisonment, but most enforcement was in nonconsenting cases of rape. Consensual same sex arrests don’t show up until 1880.
- In the late 18th century and early 20th century, states responding to public displays of a gay lifestyle began to direct sodomy laws specifically to same gender couples and routine enforcement greatly increased.
- 1930’s thru 1950’s in America saw almost all states push hard against the gay subculture with laws and crackdowns. Gays were barred from all government jobs and homosexuality was equated with godlessness and communism.
- The new science of Psychology saw homosexuality as a treatable disorder almost universally through the 1960’s. The treatments could be harsh including lobotomies, electric shock and genital shock treatment. In the 1970’s and beyond, psychology began a move away from seeing homosexuality as a disorder.
- In 1961 Connecticut was the first state to decriminalize, with most other states following suit over the next twenty years and a decrease in enforcement in laws that stayed on the books. The Stonewall riots in 1969 were partially a message being sent by police to city hall for a litany of policy changes from 1965 on ordering police to stop targeting gay bars and for fire and police departments to stop screening out homosexuals.
- With the rise of AIDS in 1980’s, the LGBTQ community sympathetically came into the public eye. This led to more public figures coming out of the closet, television series with gay characters and workplace antidiscrimination laws in some states. However, a conservative Christian backlash in response to AIDS and cultural acceptance also rose at the same time.
- Possible Statements MLC could make.
- Messiah Lutheran Church believes that same gender sexuality is not an intention of God’s creation; and therefore, same gender sexual behavior is sinful. We are all sinners, however, and we believe we are only redeemed through the grace God has shown in Jesus. Messiah welcomes anyone who identifies as LGBTQ who wishes to join us in worship and leadership.
- Our members at Messiah Lutheran Church are not in agreement concerning same gender sexuality. Some regard it as an intentional part of God’s creation and that scriptural prohibitions must be interpreted in light of context and different cultural norms. Others regard it as not an intention of God’s creation; therefore, same gender sexual behavior is sinful. Together we agree, however, that we are all sinful and only redeemed through the grace God has shown in Jesus. Messiah welcomes anyone who identifies as LGBTQ who wishes to join us in worship and leadership.
- Messiah Lutheran Church believes that same gender sexuality as an intentional part of God’s creation and scriptural prohibitions must be interpreted in light of context and different cultural norms. Messiah welcomes anyone who identifies as LGBTQ who wishes to join us in worship and leadership.
- Two marriage statements that could be added.
- Healthy sexuality is important for all of us to live wholly in Christ. The trust and vulnerability inherent in expressing our sexual selves needs the public and clear promises of marriage. Marriage encourages the building of good community and strong families and is a living sign of God’s love for us and hope for us to live in fulfilling relationships. One role of the church is to nurture and support the married couples among us. Therefore, with God, we will bless the marriages of all heterosexual couples who are members of our congregation, but cannot participate in the blessing of same gender marriages.
- Healthy sexuality is important for all of us to live wholly in Christ. The trust and vulnerability inherent in expressing our sexual selves needs the public and clear promises of marriage. Marriage encourages the building of good community and strong families and is a living sign of God’s love for us and hope for us to live in fulfilling relationships. One role of the church is to nurture and support the married couples among us. Therefore, with God, we will bless the marriages of all couples who are members of our congregation.
- Statement of Confession and Repentance that could be added.
- We recognize that the Church has hurt and wounded many who are LGBTQ. We confess that we have fallen short of welcoming and loving all God’s children. With God’s help, we seek to repent and to better live out the gospel.
- Road from here
- It is up to the council to decide. We could…
- Do nothing.
- Create a statement of welcome, that contains our views on sexuality and marriage.
- This could be accomplished by a task force of informed and interested members appointed by council.
- Their work could be approved by council or council could opt for a congregational vote.
- Closing prayer
Continue reading Homosexuality: Church, Scripture, Society Session 5: Culture
- Opening Prayer
- Leviticus 18:22, 20:13
- The scripture is a part of the Holiness Code in the book of Leviticus. The purpose of the code was to help the people “be holy as God is holy”.
- The problem with the male sex acts described is likely that they are not how God intended for the creation to be
- Christians do not keep many of the laws of Leviticus
- Because they might not pertain to our context
- They represent a pre modern way of seeing the world, that is how God intended creation
- The role of the Church, since the beginning of the Church, was to decide which laws, of Leviticus or anywhere else in scripture, applied to their circumstance. Matthew 18:18, Binding and Loosing
- Most Lutheran scholars would loose this law
- that only means that this law does not speak to our current circumstance, not a statement on whether same gender sex is sinful
- Romans 1:26-27
- What are the clear meaning of these verses?
- How do these verses fit into the first chapter of Paul?
- What seems to be Paul’s view of Gentiles?
- Does it seem important to you that pederasty is the only reference for homosexuality Paul might have had?
- What scholars say about whether these verses speak to our understanding of homosexuality
- I Corinthians 6:9-11
- What are the clear meaning of these verse?
- How do these verses fit into the sixth chapter of I Corinthians?
- The debate over terms pornos, malakos, arsenokoites
- I Timothy 1:8-10
- What is the clear meaning of this scripture?
- The debate over translating the three words together
- Closing thoughts on scripture
Continue reading Homosexuality: Church, Scripture, Society Session 4: Scripture